As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. 090 thick. The filed bits to fit in the pocket would sit below this overhang. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. I understand that you can put some fretboard overhang and add the fret ,,,,,but I would like to add a bit of a twist to my next build. Builder: Valenti Basses. NO overhang 4. Platinum Blonde. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. Keep thinning it down untill your happy with the thickness. . Somewhere, Wonderful. Once that's done, I do the touchup with the same needle files that I mentioned above. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. The fretboard overhang is very lazy bass building IMO. Also vintage tinted pup covers and volume and tone knobs, string trees and misc screws! Keeping the original pups for the. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. If you can envision a Warmoth neck with the overhang containing an extra fret, Then think about what is happening. I've also already done a trussrod slot with. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. 83" at the first fret , . It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. I ran into a snag with the control plate. If you press too hard, you may cut into the fretboard or binding. This Modele 10 from Jacques Favino is a standout piece in the gypsy-jazz guitar realm. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. I like to see about . That solves the problem without a shim. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. STEP TWO: Cigar Box Guitar Neck-build Details: Use hardwood. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. 5" scale. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. Based on 24 frets and the fretboard overhang I am leaning heavily toward an earlier Dean Edge 1 that has been modified with a three way switch instead of V/V/T. If a lot of wood has to go to make the scale length right, or to make a neat edge- saw the neck horizontally below the binding, creating a fretboard overhang. Apr 13, 2020. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. John Eppstein wrote: trock. I have a 2019 Player Series Jaguar bass body. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaFirst of all. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. Just unboxed a DIY kit and test fitted the neck. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. 3. . Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. Price From $242. To get 21 with no overhang, the neck must be made longer. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. Then a tortoise shell pickguard, stamped metal bridge saddles, new pots, new cap, new 5 way switch and new jack plug. Sand the entire length of the fretboard with the same motions, making sure to keep your radius even across the length of the frets. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. Riverdrifter, Kenneth Mountain, dbrian66 and 1 other person. But yeah, maybe trimming back the fretboard overhang (maybe just on the treble side?) could do the trick, give you just a bit more real estate. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. 83" at the first fret , . The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. 13. There's that little 1/8" nick outside of where the neck pocket should be. Feb 2, 2001. Hi. Resources. Sometimes it is a case of just an overhang for the extra frets, sometimes the heel moved and designed specificially for that neck. Regular length neck screws would go through fretboard. I have needed to do it on a few guitars including my #1 guitar. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. There's a seller on Ebay selling tele necks. Crypto1. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. Handy that the guard screws come out. The difference between a flat fretboard and one with contour. 30. Apr 20, 2005 #5. My Warmoth J pickguard is held in place just by the fretboard overhang, the control plate and the neck PU. It is the same at both high and low E. I used a dremel to widen the arc. The type of truss rod installed would have an impact, but not where it's adjusted. Sasebo Maps and TyBo. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate:For overhang past the fretboard, I run a large file up and down the fretboard edge. . The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. . I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. The pickguard certainly looks homemade. 5mm. On a Dlx 5 string, the 24th fret is alot easier to reach. Messages 10,311. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. Sep 2, 2019. I'm planning on ordering a 24. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. That neck may have a shim in the neck pocket to raise the neck up a little more. Dec 21, 2005 #10 BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's. Take your fully strung guitar in your hands and hold it strings up, level. Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. The Warmoth site says the 7/8 body will only work with the 7/8 warhead neck. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. Back when Floyd Rose designed the system we all know and have a love/hate relationship with, there were no such things as locking tuners or Graphtech nuts. The neck has been reset to ensure. 4 string necks: Warmoth 21-fret necks (with fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for standard 20-fret bass. 53mm at the 22 fret, it simply wouldn't fit in the neck socket without some trimming. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. The super wide neck expands to 60. 1: in Fretfind, there is a variable called "fretboard overhang" that describes how much wider your fretboard/nut is than the outside of your strings. . THere ya go Yon - View attachment 959646 View attachment 959647 The pictures are pretty terrible, but you get the idea anyhow It's a 24" scale 21 fret neck with a spoke-wheel truss rod adjuster mounted at the heel. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. frank falbo SS. ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. The fretboard/neck/body junction looks terrible. If we routed a 1. 5" necks have a 1/4" 22 fret overhang (right?) but the 24. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. I ask because to thought necks with the extra frets had a fretboard overhang and this neck doesn’t Feb 18, 2022 #5. The fretboard I got from Stew Mac and I have a second board in house so redoing it with a new, flat board is no problem. The fretboard overhang sits up off the top of the body by about 3 or 4 mm (see picture). fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. 83" at the first fret , . 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. The 720 mod will get rid of that gap if it's going to bother you, and shouldn't affect your bridge choice unless you're going to use something unusually. For the math-impaired: 1. That’s quite different than a bridge pickup, I consider. 2. It is now ugly, but playable. 5" scale. Maple, walnut, oak, cherry and mahogany are great choices. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 1. Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. Sign In. . The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. 125" in either sides. All the rods I use are hotrod truss rods from Stewmac. Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. CryptoI have an Yngwie Signature Strat (borrowed off a mate XD) Anyway, all I can say is that they are EXTREMELY different to normal frets. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. You’ll also appreciate the American Pro II J Bass's sculpted neck heel, which provides a comfortable feel and easy access to this electric bass guitar’s upper. Add to Wish List. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. Here's an thread where someone made their own body for a Musikraft neck. Ontario County. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. It features a maple fretboard with abalone dots, bone nut, and high gloss headstock. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. 5 scale. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. M. 74K subscribers in the Luthier community. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. I used a dremel to widen the arc. Some strat necks have a little fretboard overhang with an extra fret that goes over the body a little bit. I've gone from not knowing what I was playing (you know; those days before the internet and I just bought my JV Squier Strat because I wanted 'A Strat'). (also make sure any fretboard overhang isn't bottoming out on the pickguard before the neck and body close up. 5 radius fretboard approx . . They give you a "firmer grip" on the notes, if you get what I. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. . . 125" (3. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. . I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. It's that the new neck sits lower in the pocket than the old one did. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. . It will be less than 1/32" on each side by the 1st fret and progressively less as you go up the neck as you won't want to change the heel width. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. Tweedledee. NO overhang 4. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. . Last edited: Jul 16, 2012. M. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. Fretboard Radius 10" - 16" Compound Number of Frets 22 Inlay Shape Standard Dots Inlay Material Black Side Dots Black Side Dots Mounting Holes Standard 4-Bolt Neck Heel Shape Strat® Shape. When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. . If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. That is a 21 fret neck with no overhang, which means that it won't work with the standard bridge placement of a P bass. Fits Tele style bodiesSpecs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang9. The only neck I have here to measure is 1-1/16 thick at the butt end to the top of the fretboard crown. . Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. Compatibility Issues. In theory both should work but unless you really want 22 frets I'd look for a neck with a regular neck heel, not the overhang. my partscasters with overhanging 22 fret boards have about . When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang (Note: 21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Fat Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard. The fretboard overhang is typical on many hollowbody instruments, as it allows more of the top to vibrate. Anybody. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. Hence, the hemorrhoid known as the "locking. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. . 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstoc. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. SN-32569 . I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". 35mm (0. Mar 25, 2017. I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. 1,649 206. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. It should look a bit like this:. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. Messages 1,565. Mildew Jones. . I put on a white pickguard (rather, forced it on, which caused me to chip the fretboard overhang) and had a 5-way switch and Bill Lawrence pickups installed. iamlowsound. Even. 25,683. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. Fat Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. 581" from there to the bridge (which will also be the measurement from the end of the neck pocket to the bridge). When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. Rear Natural Clear body. 75" is very. 22 medium jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. However you now have an extra fret without having to move the bridge. (in fact it's the same on a strat, the pickguard extends there as well, so the 22nd fret alos overhangs on the pickguard as well. I want to make a 22 fret neck with a tele heal and have a spoke style truss rod. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. 720". Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. It felt just right all the way up to the end of the fretboard. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. You may want to do this in small increments to avoid going too thin right off the bat. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. Tele specsI have a 2011 Fender Cabronita MIA body with TV Jones T Armond’s, and Bigsby. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. number of strings = 4. Only problem is the neck sits too low in the pocket, not as in terms of the action, but the other way, so the fret board is push right up against the top pick. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. I got some router bite on this fretboard. But if I saw one with that much space, I'd have to wonder if the neck is original to the body, and if the body is full-thickness (or has a more shallow neck pocket). Straight Fretboard End. In short, unless someone has done a lot of reengineering, I don't think having less fretboard overhang by itself will help the sound. 75 is more comfortable by far. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. I asked earlier in the thread is the overhang of the fretboard hitting the pickguard or anything? You should have enough clearance you can see light under the overhang when looked at from the side. . If you like that position, it might work well. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. Let the side of the fretboard overhang the edge just a little bit. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. It has a Fender neck and they worked out fine. simple, yet perfect for the song. Most conversion necks are in fact 24. It does not need to be much but some. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home There are no sharp fret ends, and the volume and tone knobs have a smooth, noise-free—if somewhat limited—taper throughout their ranges. 2. Hard to find in this condition. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. If the bridge is positioned further up the body that means that the fretboard is essentially shifted to the left. Perfectly set up for those Jeff Beck style flutters. . For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. The neck was somehwere in the region of $250 if I recall, then I had a jet black ebony board and the fretboard overhang is squared off, as opposed to the usual Warmoth where it is rounded. 09375. to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th fret. shift the neck to the treble side until the spacing between the outer strings and the fretboard edge are equal. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. Some of the necks I see have a fretboard overhang, some don't. The screws are going right through the body, flush with the backplate and bottom. Ontario County. I can also clearly see there. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. I am using fretfinder to design the fretboard. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. 1,649 206. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. As title says, tried tinkering w/ several neck types, but seems I could get 24 frets only on modern necks, so not sure if this is available for vintage/modern. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. Have. Close to Los Angeles, CA. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Screw holes lined up pretty well. . On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. number of strings = 4. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. My guard's tort, so it might be a little thicker than a clear one, but I could gig mine w/o screws in it for sure. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. It is usually referred to as a feature. First of all. Nut:Hi all, Need some help please. 060" or . Of course, customer must verify neck pocket dimensions. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. If this was the only problem, I'd probably just forget about it since it's going to be under the fretboard overhang and I probably won't be able to see it. All kinds of materials are used for this. If you are getting a 24-fret neck and having us build a body to go with it, you will have the option to move the neck pickup back from the neck pocket to compensate for this overhang. There are four input modes for overhang. I believe I heard this was normal to prevent cracking the underside of the fretboard when attaching the bolt neck. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Photo 4.